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Production Director and Operational Leadership | I build teams and ship games | ex-PlayStation, EA, Activision, Amazon, MGM

"Kenn's the guy you bring in to un#%$& the craziest $%#&." This was the referral message that got me my interview at Crunchyroll back in 2015. It wasn't just a referral - it was a championing of me that I'll never forget (thanks, Jeff Pineda - I still owe you for that). We spent a lot of time today in the Game Industry Coffee Chat discussing the value of referrals. It's a common subject as we push the idea that it's by far the most effective way to get into the game industry, with vets sharing story after story of how we got in based on who we knew (and who they knew). Whenever I see stories of folks who sent out some X-hundred resumes over the course of a few months without any response, I find myself wondering what else they're doing besides just clicking on application-after-application, uploading the same generic resume. I think of my own job hunt in 2023 and look at the spreadsheet I used to track those applications and realize that my experience was seeing more than 30% callback rates. The difference of course isn't that I have a super amazing resume format or that I just have experience that's THAT much better - some of the folks having the most trouble are in many ways even more experienced than I am, having worked on bigger games or more titles. No, the difference to me looking through this spreadsheet from back then is obvious to me - I had internal direct referrals for me on more than 80% of the jobs I applied to back then. In fact, the actual role I ended up landing here at Daybreak wasn't even one I applied for - it was a direct ask to the recruiter from the EP on the team at the time (hi James!). Years earlier, James and I had spoken about potentially having me come to work with him at Microsoft and while that didn't end up materializing, we'd maintained our connection since. In fact, even while the market was melting down and I was dealing with personal tragedies in my life at that time, once you accounted for the time I took out due to those issues, I realized that my experience in the job hunt wasn't actually all THAT different from other years. More competitive, slightly longer search - but that could have just as easily been accounted for due to the level of position I was looking for compared against earlier years. It's referrals that made the difference for me. But not all referrals are the same. Knowing someone who is willing to go above for you is FAR better than just someone willing to pass your name along or give you a referring link. Find your champions. Be a champion for others. #GameIndustry #Referrals #WorkSmarterNotHarder #TodayYouTomorrowMe

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Kenn White, CSM, CSPO

Production Director and Operational Leadership | I build teams and ship games | ex-PlayStation, EA, Activision, Amazon, MGM

2mo

Quote: "According to hiring platform Greenhouse, while external applicants have a 1 in 200 chance of being hired, those with referrals have a 1 in 25 chance. (Internal applicants — the ultimate known quantity — have a 1 in 5 chance of getting hired, though they typically only make up some 0.1% of candidates, according to Greenhouse.)" H/T to ‎ Steven Yau:

James Nance

Veteran Product and Engineering Leader @ Meta | 4x Founder, XR Technology Expert | MSFT, AMZN Alum

2mo

Building your network is one of the most difficult and underutilized skills I see. I believe you have to put good things out in the world to get that same energy back, so I always try to respond to requests for referrals, and lend a hand to folks in need.

Elizabeth Whitener

Career Transition Coach | Helping Job Seekers Land Their Next Role | Resume & LinkedIn Optimization | Interview Prep | Salary Negotiation | Job Search Strategy | Technical Recruiter | Talent Sourcing Expert | Cat Rescuer

2mo

Networking and referrals is really key in this brutal job market. As for resumes. Simple, easily scanable, the only real difference today is that resumes should be accomplishment driven over just skill driven. Aka: I managed a team of 8, creating processes that improved production time, allowing us to complete projects on time and on budget saving the company X dollars. You haven’t assume you are in a pile of resumes and an over worked, underpaid recruiter with 2 years experience is scanning hundreds of resumes. Or maybe it’s “Peggy from payroll” scanning resumes. Or maybe it’s an understaffed hiring manager. Your resume should be a simple, easy to read, accomplishment filled branding document that entices the reader to want to talk to you.

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